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Post by Cunt Wrap Supreme on Feb 7, 2009 1:16:37 GMT -5
He does it out of some weird respect, apparently. Last semester I came in late - sometimes so much so that me coming in the first place is pointless - almost every day. I have like 35 lates. I also slept through many of his lessons and I still performed better than a lot of students in the class.
Of course, I'm not great at physics (not by a long shot). The kids were retarded as well. He just thinks I have potential to do a lot better if I actually put forth effort in being punctual with attendance and assignments. Thus, he makes fun of me for it.
That, and I was notorious for it 'cause I was the only one who came late so frequently/slept through class
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Post by hellomeow on Feb 7, 2009 1:35:15 GMT -5
I still don't understand why you bothered to take the course then.
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Post by Cunt Wrap Supreme on Feb 7, 2009 2:41:01 GMT -5
Nothing else to take.
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Post by hellomeow on Feb 7, 2009 19:48:07 GMT -5
I can relate, I wanted to take Biology last semester but all the classes were taken. Didn't you pick all courses that you wanted first of all?
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Post by Cunt Wrap Supreme on Feb 7, 2009 20:54:36 GMT -5
Next year, yes. Had a last minute change of mind of what I wanted to do. It's not that I don't like physics, but I just don't have the motivation to do really well in it anymore.
I have a full 6 credit selection next year, so every course this year can honestly go down the shitter.
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Post by hellomeow on Feb 7, 2009 22:34:56 GMT -5
Going to Waterloo has been a long term goal of mine, so letting any course go down the shitter is pretty unforgivable to me. I'm still incredibly pissed off about how poorly I did in Advanced Functions.
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Post by elbow unit on Feb 7, 2009 23:22:59 GMT -5
michael , you know you can just walk up and teach the class. you just can't do the homework i'm guessing
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Post by Cunt Wrap Supreme on Feb 8, 2009 7:58:13 GMT -5
I'm still incredibly pissed off about how poorly I did in Advanced Functions. What? I thought you obliterated that class.
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Post by hellomeow on Feb 8, 2009 11:36:59 GMT -5
I'm still incredibly pissed off about how poorly I did in Advanced Functions. What? I thought you obliterated that class. Yes everyone and their mother thought I obliterated that class. I hate how everyone just assumes that I'm a 90 student or something without even having any idea as to what my grades are (this semester I got mid 70s in everything). I do study and try pretty hard when it comes to academics, but I'm not even remotely good at school. I've never been good at school and I've tried to explain it to people for years. I went into Advanced Functions already knowing every single thing the teacher taught us beforehand just because I looked it up on my own while I was still in Functions and Relations. That doesn't really matter though, what matters in a math class is how well you're able to follow the methods of expression that they specify for you; you are rarely ever asked to prove things yourself (thank god for trigidentities) and you're marked in a lot of cases simply based on how you express your work more than anything else. Most of the time I can't even understand what a math teacher wants me to do, so I do everything I think they might want me to and end up wasting time as a result. I didn't finish 3 pages of the final exam, and the ones I did I'm not even sure if I got right. I had a 79.9% average going into the exam, so my mark most likely went down into the low 70s or 60s. I really don't like public education because of how standardized it tends to be. I love being at school because of the resources available, the knowledge of the teachers there, and also just the dynamic energy that always seems to be in a place of study. If teachers allowed me to just study whatever I wanted to do, I'd spend all day asking my teacher to explain to me everything there is to know about integral calculus, or spend most of physics class asking questions about string theory and trying out problems on relativity. But since school doesn't work like that I just have to demonstrate everything I already know to my teachers regardless of what it is I want to study or feel I can be doing.
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Post by Cunt Wrap Supreme on Feb 8, 2009 17:55:03 GMT -5
What do you mean 'how you express yourself'?
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Post by hellomeow on Feb 8, 2009 18:32:34 GMT -5
What do you mean 'how you express yourself'? Math is just a means of expression, the way you write it down is how you express yourself mathematically. You can show leaps in thinking without clearly explaining everything that you have done to come to a conclusion. For example, say you have a rational function where the numerator is 4(x^2 + 8). You can prove there are no real solutions. 0 = 4(x^2 + 8) 0 = x^2 + 8 -8 = x^2 sqrt(-8) = +/-x 2i * sqrt(2) = +/-x So you've proved the only two solutions are -2i*sqrt(2), or 2i*sqrt(2). Which proves the point that there are no real solutions. You can do all that, or you can just make the logical induction that you're teacher is smart enough to know that x^2 + 8 couldn't possibly have a zero using real values, and therefore just write, "No real solutions". In either case, you're expressing the same thing, one just wastes a shit ton of your time because you aren't sure how clearly your teacher wants you to express your answer. This is the kind of bullshit that confuses me, because at times that's what the teacher wants, at other times they don't even look at all that shit. Another example might just be the way that you prefer to solve a problem. Math teachers in standardized education systems have this retarded idea in their head that there's a right and wrong way to solve a problem, normal people solve a problem in whichever way makes the most sense to them. For example, say you're teacher wants you to find the instantaneous velocity of a projectile at x = 1 represented by the function of -3x^2+3. Now, you could take the slope of a point really close to 1, or you could do what someone who understands calculus and/or physics does and derive it as being -6x, and then tell you're teacher that the slope is -6. But because you're in Advanced Functions and you are supposed to be too stupid to be able to save time by doing that, you lose marks for taking the derivative. This is another one of those tricks I get caught in. Another problem is the total illegibility of my writing making it difficult for teachers to understand what the hell I am even writing. Not to mention that, but math teachers are completely anal about form (even though you'll never actual give a shit about form when you solve a problem for practical applications, you'll get an answer and use it). I lose marks all the time for forgetting an equal sign, putting down one too many or one too few lim signs, or just forgetting a minus or something like that. I'm prone to mistake making virtually all the time and my math mark reflects this. Every single math teacher I've ever had has either told me, "Wow Mike for a guy who understands this stuff so well you sure do work slowly." or "Gee, for a guy who can solve these problems faster than I can write them on the board you sure do make a lot of mistakes." etc.
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Post by Cunt Wrap Supreme on Feb 8, 2009 20:22:07 GMT -5
Hmm, that is true. That's one thing I hate about math teachers in school: they all expect different things. This is why I like LeBreton's method of teaching.
I don't give a damn about your process if you can get the answer right.
Math teachers expect to see things certain ways, and I lose marks for that too. It pisses me the fuck off. I'm not as good at math as you are, but there are times where I can solve an equation faster without using methods the teacher does. Those are usually the "wrong" answers or "the ones they're not looking for".
Fuck our school
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Post by hellomeow on Feb 8, 2009 21:45:50 GMT -5
Hmm, that is true. That's one thing I hate about math teachers in school: they all expect different things. This is why I like LeBreton's method of teaching. I don't give a damn about your process if you can get the answer right.Math teachers expect to see things certain ways, and I lose marks for that too. It pisses me the fuck off. I'm not as good at math as you are, but there are times where I can solve an equation faster without using methods the teacher does. Those are usually the "wrong" answers or "the ones they're not looking for". Fuck our school You might as well fuck the Canadian education system as a whole, at least in Ontario. Same rules and expectations will apply province wide, with the same about of discerning being made by teachers on an individual basis. More often than not I feel like I have to understand my teacher more than I have to understand the course material to succeed in a course.
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Post by elbow unit on Feb 8, 2009 21:59:25 GMT -5
The problem i find with schooling, especially math , is that they say one thing one year, then the next they tell you they fucking lied and that this is the right answer.
I may be old school, but lying is wrong. If we cannot understand, THEN DON'T LIE TO ME IN THE FIRST PLACE! Fuck i should write somethin in writer's craft about this.
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Post by hellomeow on Feb 8, 2009 22:10:58 GMT -5
This is basically like physics.
Aristotle: Hey you guys! Heavier things fall faster than lighter things, amirite? Everyone: rofl yarite.
Hundreds of years later....
Galileo: Hay you guys, I think Aristotle kind fucked up on that whole 'heavy things fall faster' stuff yano, I got this proof rite here... The Vatican: YOU DARE SCORN THE NAME OF ARISTOTLE? WE'LL CHOP YOUR BALLS OFF YOU PUSSY FAGGOT. Galileo: mmmm.... kay nvm.
Newton: I present to you, the 3 laws of motion! Also, calculus! And last but not least... the theory of gravity! Everyone: Holy crap Isaac you're pretty damn smart, wanna hang out sometime? Newton: Fuck that shit.
300 years later
Einstein: So guys, I heard space and time aren't actually separated. Everyone: Homie say what? Einstein: Yup, and not only that but as it turns out, things only fall because SPACETIME bends. Everyone :0 wut... Einstein: rofl I bet Newton couldn't accurately predict the effects on particles traveling near the speed of light with his shitty gravity theory, lmfao.... Everyone: ..... WHOA E=mc^2. You're awesome Einstein!
Present day...
Brian Greene: So guys, how about that string theory? Everyone: What the fuck is string theory?
Physics is just one lie after another.
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